In 1973, OPEC announced an oil embargo on the US for its decision to re-supply the Israeli army during the Yom Kippur War. The embargo lasted until March 1974, during which time oil prices quadrupled. To control supplies, the federal government under Nixon rationed oil, by state, to 1972 levels. By February 1974, it was estimated by the American Automobile Association that 20% of gas stations had no fuel to sell. The second energy crisis of the decade occurred in the wake of the Iranian Revolution in 1979.
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US economy Recently it has been remarkably resilient, confounding forecasters who have insisted that we due to a stir After a stretch of almost six years since the body was hit by Covid. So when will the wheels come off?
No way to know, ex top white House economist tyler goodspeed A new book says this will likely confuse the vast majority of professional forecasters who routinely predict impending doom.
“Recessions are basically unpredictable,” Goodspeed said in an interview Tuesday about his forthcoming book, “Recession: The Real Reasons Economies Shrink and What to Do About It.” He was previously acting chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers in the Trump administration.
Goodspeed’s thinking is highly relevant to the war in Iran, but he is asking readers to draw their own conclusions about it for now. Since leaving the government, he has worked as chief economist for ExxonMobil. Given the sensitive nature of the conflict, CNBC agreed not to ask Goodspeed directly about the war.
energy Nevertheless, Goodspeed’s analysis figures prominently into when and why America has hit an economic wall over the decades. The transcript of their conversation has been edited for length and clarity.
Question: You say recessions are not predictable. What does it mean? There are many people who try to predict them.
Tyler Goodspeed: In short, this means that recessions are about shocks, and they are shocks that we can neither fully anticipate nor effectively defend against.
We have tools like the yield curve to predict recessions. But when you actually test these tools on the historical record, there are a lot of false positives and false negatives.
I admit, I still look at the yield curve just to have a look. I don’t believe in astrology, but I still look at my horoscope occasionally.
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Question: You are only human. So, about recession shocks. What does a recession-causing shock look like?
Good Speed: There are many types of these. One is your kind of big aggregate, macro shocks, like a pandemic, that affect all sectors of the economy almost equally and simultaneously. There is another category of shocks that directly affect only one or two sectors, but those sectors are highly interconnected with the rest of the economy.
If you look not only at the last 80 years, but really the last three and a half centuries, energy is one of the sectors that has generated, or suffered, a lot of the shocks that have subsequently spread to the rest of the economy. It is not difficult to understand why, as energy is an input into many other sectors, and finding alternatives for fuel, heating, and materials that use petroleum products is very difficult in a 12 month or 24 month time frame.
But it’s not just energy. The relatively mild recession of the 1960s was partly the result of the massive steel strike in late 1959 that created much of the inventory shortage in 1960. You can think of all the downstream impacts of a steel shortage. The American recession of 1927, the primary contributor to which was that the Ford Motor Company halted all production for a few months as they retooled factories to produce the Model A instead of the Model T. Again, you think about all the upstream and downstream linkages of automotive production, and that’s combined with the coal strike and the boll weevil infestation in the Carolinas, so don’t be surprised if you get a recession.
The point is that energy is not the only cause of shocks, but it has been involved in many of them, and in interesting ways.
Q: You write in the book that high energy prices significantly contributed to the depth of the recession around the 2008 financial crisis, even though there was no war, sanctions, or any other kind of big, obvious force hitting the energy market. What happened?
Good Speed: To be honest, it was one of the most surprising things to me. We are all familiar with the standard narrative about the 2008–2009 recession. We forget that the highest prices of energy overall since 1945, and of oil and gasoline in particular, were not during the Arab oil embargo in 1973. This did not happen after the Iranian Revolution in 1979. This did not happen during the first Gulf War in 1990. This was in June 2008 (when prices crude oil Around $150 per barrel).
By the summer of 2008, the average American household was spending about $2,000 more per year on energy, goods and services than a few years earlier. Now, at the same time, their mortgage payments were getting higher, they were paying about $800 more per year in mortgage interest payments.
You tell me whether this is an energy price shock or a mortgage shock?
Q: Sounds like both. But can we stop the recession? Should we do things like spend on stimulus?
Good Speed: Despite the rise of a more strong and incorporated state, the duration and depth of the recession have remained remarkably stable over time, and are statistically no different after 1945 than before. Therefore, it does not seem that the state will be able to end the recession.
However, there is abundant historical evidence that contractionary fiscal and monetary policy during recessions can make things worse. The most obvious examples of this would be the Great Depression in America and Britain in the 1840s, which actually coincided with the Great Famine in Ireland. The lesson there is to do no harm in the first place.
Although I think overall economies recover from recessions, that doesn’t mean every person or every household does. There is at least a standard case for the provision of relief, and perhaps even increased relief relative to your normal unemployment insurance, aimed at those who need that relief during an economic downturn.
During an economic expansion there is a tendency to think that we can medicate or otherwise calm the economy to avoid a recession. But the reality is that recessions will keep happening, because history keeps happening. There has never been an eternal economic expansion.
Q: What else do you want people to know about the recession?
Good Speed: No matter what happens over the next year or two, the long-term, structural trend has been towards long-term expansion. We are getting better at absorbing the types of shocks that historically could trigger recessions.